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Podcast Episode #205: Dishing with Juli Bauer of PaleOMG

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1. What’s new for you from Diane [1:50] 2. Our guest, Juli Bauer [3:41] 3. A new thing Juli’s into right now [6:23] 4. Juli Bauer’s Paleo Cookbook [8:18] 5. How did you start out and create PaleOMG? [11:47] 6. Recommendations for a newbie blogger [14:18] 7. Finding the creativity for recipes [15:41] 8. Shifting from blogging to a business [18:34] 9. Wedding details [23:42] 10. All-time favorite recipe [25:19] 11. Thoughts on paleo treats, and finding a balance [26:39] 12. What does Juli’s workout look like [32:17] 13. Explain this “lighter weight” approach to Crossfit [34:33] 14. Advice for figuring out best fitness routine [37:40] 15. How does Juli stay so darned cute and put together all the time? [39:45] 16. Determining blog content versus book content [42:15] 17. How to shift thinking for a business [45:37] 18. Maintaining privacy with a public life [52:01] [smart_track_player url=”″ title=”#205: Dishing with Juli Bauer or PaleoOMG ” artist=”Diane Sanfilippo & Liz Wolfe ” color=”00AEEF” social=”true” social_twitter=”true” social_facebook=”true” social_gplus=”true” ]


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Balance Bites: Episode #205: Dishing with Juli Bauer or PaleOMG

You’re listening to the Balanced Bites podcast episode 205.

Welcome to the Balanced Bites podcast with Diane Sanfilippo and Liz Wolfe. Diane is a certified nutrition consultant, and the New York Times bestselling author of Practical Paleo, The 21-Day Sugar Detox, and co-author of Mediterranean Paleo Cooking. Liz is a nutritional therapy practitioner, and the best-selling author of Eat the Yolks and The Purely Primal Skincare Guide. Together, Diane and Liz answer your questions, interview leading health and wellness experts, and share their take on modern paleo living with their friendly and balanced approach. Remember our disclaimer: The materials and content within this podcast are intended as general information only, and are not to be considered a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.

1. What’s new for you from Diane [1:50] 2. Our guest, Juli Bauer [3:41] 3. A new thing Juli’s into right now [6:23] 4. Juli Bauer’s Paleo Cookbook [8:18] 5. How did you start out and create PaleOMG? [11:47] 6. Recommendations for a newbie blogger [14:18] 7. Finding the creativity for recipes [15:41] 8. Shifting from blogging to a business [18:34] 9. Wedding details [23:42] 10. All-time favorite recipe [25:19] 11. Thoughts on paleo treats, and finding a balance [26:39] 12. What does Juli’s workout look like [32:17] 13. Explain this “lighter weight” approach to Crossfit [34:33] 14. Advice for figuring out best fitness routine [37:40] 15. How does Juli stay so darned cute and put together all the time? [39:45] 16. Determining blog content versus book content [42:15] 17. How to shift thinking for a business [45:37] 18. Maintaining privacy with a public life [52:01]

Diane Sanfilippo: Hey guys! Diane here. I have a very special guest with me here today; Juli Bauer of PaleOMG. Before we get into my interview with her, and before we get into some updates, let’s hear a word from our sponsor.

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1. What’s new for you from Diane [1:50]

Diane Sanfilippo: Alrighty, so before I bring Juli on, I want to tell you guys a few different updates here. This episode will air right about when Scott and I will be getting to San Francisco; so hopefully, I’ll have added back this note to a few episodes. But if you're not yet following me on Periscope, join me over there. All you need to do is download the app, and then search for my name, Diane Sanfilippo. I think Liz has an account too, but I don’t know if she’s posting yet. I’m definitely posting to Periscope pretty often, as it’s pretty much second to audio recording for my favorite way to connect with you guys. So come join me over there.

If you don’t already listen to the Build a Badass Business podcast, if you’re an entrepreneur or want to be an entrepreneur, blogger, you have a product, service, etc., great resource for you, totally free content, so come tune into that show.

A couple of other updates really quickly; if you didn’t already hear, Practical Paleo and Mediterranean Paleo Cooking are back in all Costco stores in the United States, so check them out there. I think they’re both $23.99, which is basically half off, so it’s a great deal. And if you don’t see it, just dig around in some stacks if you see a bunch of paleo books, because they tend to get mixed up.

The last note I want to give you guys is that the Micronutrient Miracle promotion, where you can get $200 of real food gift certificates just for buying a copy of the book is still going on, even though the book has released. The Giveaway is going on through the end of August. So hop over to, I have a blog post for it there if you just search Micronutrient Miracle, or if you just search the word miracle you’ll probably find it and get all the details. I think we’ll try and link to it from the show notes here, too. So that’s it for my updates.

2. Our guest, Juli Bauer [3:41]

Diane Sanfilippo: Alright, so if you don’t know who Juli Bauer is, {laughs} I might think you're living under a big paleo rock or something. But I’ll introduce her really quickly; Juli is the author of, which is an amazing blog. She’s also a New York Times bestselling author, and her third cookbook, Juli Bauer’s Paleo Cookbook is releasing; well it actually released 2 days ago when this show airs. Welcome Juli!

Juli Bauer: Hello! Thanks for having me!

Diane Sanfilippo: I’m so excited to have you on the show! I feel like we were just chatting about something a few weeks ago about your tour, and now it’s upon us.

Juli Bauer: I know. It’s here. It’s here! It’s happening.

Diane Sanfilippo: It’s here. That’s right. Oh, and I didn’t mention but I should; is it September 21st, your San Francisco event, right?

Juli Bauer: Yes.

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s a Monday. I will officially be married that day, and you’ll be in San Francisco, and I’m going to join you for that event. You and Vanessa will be touring. Is she just doing that leg of the tour with you?

Juli Bauer: Yep, I’m doing the first leg by myself, doing mostly East Coast. Then I’ll take a little break, a little breather at home, and then join her on West Coast, Texas, Seattle, Portland.

Diane Sanfilippo: Awesome.

Juli Bauer: And then I think we’re stopping in Chicago, and we’re hoping for Miami, because who doesn’t want to go to Miami?

Diane Sanfilippo: I know! That’s awesome. I was so bummed, because I’m leaving the East Coast right when you're coming here, but then I was really psyched that you ended up getting a date that I can join you for. Because I’ll basically be flying back from our wedding the night before that, so hopefully I won’t be too exhausted. I’ll be psyched for the event.

Juli Bauer: It’s so exciting!

Diane Sanfilippo: It is exciting! It’s funny, we’re both getting married really soon.

Juli Bauer: I know. I feel like everyone at my gym right now is engaged or getting married. All these women are getting picked up. So if there are any single guys out there in Colorado.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Go to our gym, because they get picked up like crazy there. It must be that time of our lives; everybody is getting married.

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s awesome. I love it. There was one other thing I was going to tell people; oh, so. Ok. You were on the show; have you been on twice before, or just once before?

Juli Bauer: I don’t know.

Diane Sanfilippo: I think at least once, because I know Liz chatted with you, for some reason I was out of commission, and our Skype recording situation, trying to get 3 people on the call just ruins everything. So the whole thing goes down the tubes. So I’m excited we get to chat today.

3. A new thing Juli’s into right now [6:23]

I think what we’re going to do, before we jump into our interview; we got a ton of questions for you from Instagram and Facebook, all over the place. But I want to do one of our fun segments with you. I want to do what I’m into now. Oh, actually it’s called a new thing I’m into right now! So Juli Bauer, what’s a new thing you’re into right now?

Juli Bauer: Ok, so this is really boring, and my fiancé is almost complaining at this point because I’m making it so often. He’s like, ok can you make something different. But I’m just so into crispy chicken thighs right now. Cooking them in a cast iron skillet, getting the skin super crispy, and then baking them. Every time I’m making them I put on Primal Palate, Bill and Hayley, they just made their new spice blends, they came out with their own organic spices and so I’ve been putting their meat and potatoes spice blend on the chicken thighs, and it comes out perfect every time. It’s so flavorful, it’s amazing.

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s awesome. I’ll be right over.

Juli Bauer: Yes! Seriously.

Diane Sanfilippo: I love chicken thighs.

Juli Bauer: I have them on the stove right now.

Diane Sanfilippo: Oh my gosh, that sounds so good. I remember when we were working on Practical Paleo, Bill and Hayley. Folks might know a little bit about the face that they shot all the photos for your new book, and we can talk about that more in a second, but a few years ago, I was hanging out with them and we were shooting pictures for Practical Paleo, and we were all, on the in between days, because we had a little bit of a situation then, but the in between days when I wasn’t cooking recipes for the book, it was like, chicken thigh central. {laughs} So I think that it’s an inspiration from Bill and Hayley, this massive chicken thigh consumption.

Juli Bauer: Seriously! That’s what I talk about when I made them on my own website, how they inspired me, because they would make them all the time. You know, three years later when I make a book with them, they were still making them. And they’re freaking delicious, and come out perfect every time. Especially with their spice blends, it’s perfect.

Diane Sanfilippo: It’s awesome, I know. You really can’t overcook them. So that’s awesome. Alright, well that’s a new thing that Juli’s into lately.

Juli Bauer: Love it!

4. Juli Bauer’s Paleo Cookbook [8:18]

Diane Sanfilippo: Alright so we have a ton of questions for you. I’m not going to waste much time. I’m going to get into a few of them that have to do with the book first. Well, why don’t you just tell people a little bit about it. This is your third cookbook; tell people what you’re super excited about, because I got to see the book before; I don’t actually have the review copy yet, but I got to see the little preview, and I was just blown away. But why don’t you tell people a little bit about the book.

Juli Bauer: Well, this is my third cookbook, and I went to Bill and Hayley’s house in Pittsburg 4 times for a couple of weeks at a tie, and they did the photography. I would just cook in their kitchen and create these recipes. This book is really about making paleo your own paleo.

So when I started paleo, it seemed so restrictive and I was so scared of just trying it. And once I figured out, ok, I’m ok with eating a little bit of dairy, this works with my system. And I can have a little treat here and there. Figuring out the paleo that works for me was what was so important with keeping it sustainable for me for a lifetime, instead of just going on this crash dieting of having a paleo diet for a couple of months and then totally just stuffing my face with crap food.

So it’s really about making paleo easy for you, making it sustainable, and all these recipes are recipes that are easy to make, that are easy to find products that you can find in most grocery stores, especially now. So coconut aminos, that’s going to be one of the harder ingredients to find, but you can find that all the time online.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah.

Juli Bauer: And in most grocery stores at this point. So it’s all about making paleo work for you, and making it easy. And that’s really what I wanted my recipes to really portray when I put them out there. I’m just so excited for this book! I’ve seriously never been this excited about something that I’ve put together, so I’m super pumped.

Diane Sanfilippo: I love it. I think one of the things I really got from flipping through the pages was that they’re super bright and colorful and vibrant. And I felt like that really matches your personality; what everybody knows and loves about you. And of course, the little video you did when you first got the book {laughs}. That’s amazing.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, that’s exactly what I wanted. I wanted it to be so happy and full of positivity, because so many times dieting is related to so many negative things, and I don’t want that to be the case with my book. I want you to be excited to try it, and to try those new things, and it be just a bright and happy thing. And that’s totally what the book; I’m so glad you say that. That’s awesome you think that. That’s what I was hoping for.

Diane Sanfilippo: I love it. And I loved just the style that came through, which I know so many of us know about you. And it’s really hard to portray that in a book. I definitely feel like my personality; when somebody looks at my books, it’s this very serious nutritionist kind of thing. Unless you get to know me in a different way, it’s very hard to get a grasp of my personality. I think as somebody who teaches nutrition, it’s really hard to walk that line and make it fun and playful without people not taking me seriously when I’m talking about serious things.

Juli Bauer: Right.

Diane Sanfilippo: So I don’t always have the same room for that, so I love that because you have the room for that, and that is so true to your personality, that you kind of injected that throughout the book. It just makes it really fun to even just look through.

Juli Bauer: Good! Oh I love to hear that. Seriously, that is the greatest thing every.

5. How did you start out and create PaleOMG? [11:47]

Diane Sanfilippo: Yay! So, we’ve got a bunch of questions about recipes and all kind of things, but one question that kind of is a little background here, from Caroline L. Gates, this one was from Instagram. “How did PaleOMG come about, and what were you doing before your blog and cookbook?”

Juli Bauer: Ok, well, I graduated college in 2010, and my background was health and exercise science, so I was always kind of into that food and exercise, but I just didn’t know anything about real nutrition. It was just USDA stuff.

So I started Crossfit while I was still in college, and after college I was working at a wellness center, and once that job ended, because I was just working part time there, I was like, what am I going to do? I was obsessed with Crossfit; I was competing at Crossfit at the time, so I started just working at 4 to 5 Crossfit gyms at a time, making absolutely no money, barely being able to pay my rent, but I absolutely loved it, and spent just kind of all day in the gym.

So I was working a Crossfit gym at the time, and they asked me to start writing a nutrition blog, because I was really into nutrition, and creating recipes. So once I started making the; sorry, I’m trying to think back on all these things. Once I started making these recipes and writing them on the blog, and I decided to leave that gym, I still wanted to write so I created what is now It’s had many makeovers over the years, and come to different things, but that’s kind of how it came about.

Diane Sanfilippo: I love that. I think a lot of times people who are curious about starting a bog, or starting a business, or something when they’re new, this happened for me too. It’s like, somebody asked me to do something. They asked me to come teach a seminar, and I was like, ok. {laughs} Like, I don’t know what that’s going to mean for me, but alright, I’ll do it. And somebody asked you to put some recipes up, and you’re like, ok. And I think saying yes to that one thing, that then kind of changes the trajectory of the rest of your life. You’re like, I had no idea that putting up these recipes on this random blog was going to snowball into this crazy, huge thing that it is today. I mean, it’s just awesome.

Juli Bauer: It’s so weird. You just never, ever see that coming. That was never my plan, so it’s pretty cool to see how it’s changed over the years.

6. Recommendations for a newbie blogger [14:18]

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s awesome. So life with Niki is asking this kind of along the same lines. “What would you recommend for a newbie blogger for starting out?”

Juli Bauer: OH man, that’s a tough one because I feel like I’m seriously learning every day and still making mistakes every day. So, I would say just put out into the blog arena, put out what you absolutely love. Put 100% into it. If you’re writing about what you truly adore and what you're passionate about, then people will be passionate about it too. So I would just say, just stay true to yourself, be who you are, put it out there, and people will love it.

Diane Sanfilippo: I love that. That’s awesome. I think that’s good advice. Actually letting people know that’s kind of the difference; it really has nothing to do with all of the in’s and out’s of knowing how to do everything off the bat, because none of us do.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: Right? People are like, oh you’re an expert at blogging. You’re like, really, because I’m just trying to figure it out still. {laughs} This many years later.

Juli Bauer: Oh yeah. I’m literally making mistakes every single day and having to clean it up, so you’ll figure it out along the way. Just make sure you're passionate about something, and be passionate all the time about it.

Diane Sanfilippo: Don’t you love when you send an email and the link was wrong? And you’re like, I can’t fix that now!

Juli Bauer: OH my god. And you’re stomach drops. Ugh, it’s just the worst.

7. Finding the creativity for recipes [15:41]

Diane Sanfilippo: Ugh, it’s the worst! Ok, so Happy Lifter; I almost called her Happy Lifer. Happy Lifter, “How do you find the creativity to make all those diverse recipes?”

Juli Bauer: Well, I have the Food Network on almost all day, every day.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I found myself eating randomly because I’m just watching Food Network, so it’s making me hungry, so I’m trying to cut back a little bit.

Diane Sanfilippo: Oh my gosh. My old roommate used to be like, we can’t watch the Food Network unless we’re already eating. She would not let me turn it on.

Juli Bauer: Seriously. It’s dangerous. It’s dangerous, but I watch Food Network all the time. I like to look in magazines a lot, look on Pinterest. So I’m always kind of trying to see different ideas and different flavor combinations that I never would have expected, and I continuously look at recipes that I haven’t been doing on a regular basis.

So if I haven’t posted a dessert in a while, if it’s summer I’m going to post something that’s no bake or an ice cream. So I’m going with the seasons, and what’s in season. Like a vegetable that’s really popular or people are trying to eat more of, so I cook that. It’s kind of, there’s something always new, so there’s something always inspiring that you can come up with new recipes with.

Diane Sanfilippo: I think that’s great. Talking about what’s in season, part of that, like you said, like a seasonal vegetable. But also, this is where you actually have a really good business sense, even though you weren’t thinking of it this way. And I know tons of our listeners are either nutritionists, or they’re aspiring bloggers, that kind of thing. You tuned in to seeing what people respond to when you post certain types of blog posts.

Like, obviously if you’re trying to make some kind of stew or a pie in the middle of summer, when people just want ice cream or something no bake, you were pretty tuned into the fact that that would be something that would be better received right now. I think that’s a good testimony to an instinct that you have that maybe you didn’t even realize you had, but that’s a really good way to think about it. So that kind of goes back to that other question about the newbie blogger; it’s like, maybe your first recipe wouldn’t be for liver.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: We want people to eat liver, but maybe not the first recipe that you make, or even the first 10 or 20. Right? I mean.

Juli Bauer: Totally. And I mean, things that are trending; if it’s July 4th coming up, think about what people are wanting to eat. You know? They have their backyard barbecues and they’re used to their potato salad, and all kinds of those things, and creating things that people remember from their childhood is really helpful. So I tried to kind of go with those “trends” of the summer, and winter that kind of stuff and share those types of recipes that people will be looking for when the holidays come around.

8. Shifting from blogging to a business [18:34]

Diane Sanfilippo: So we have a question from Hayley MC from Instagram, and she sways “when was the moment you realized teaching paleo lifestyle was your calling? How did it all start?” Which this kind of goes back to what you already said about the blog, but what I’m curious about is, when did that moment shift from, I’m just sharing these recipes, to this is actually going to be a business and I’m going to make my living from this. When did that shift for you?

Juli Bauer: Well I had no idea you could make any money off of blogging. I had no idea about advertising or affiliates or anything. So when I first started doing my blog, and it was still on, I remember getting up to 350 people, and I was like, oh my god, 350 people want to know what I’m sharing? Well if 350 people are waiting for a blog, I’ve got to make sure I’m posting on a regular basis, and make sure I’m keeping up so they want to come back and want to share more recipes.

So it was when, oh, I think it was 2 years ago now that I started doing some advertising on my site and some affiliate programs that I just started working with paleo companies that I really wanted to promote in the first place. And I was like, actually, I can make a living off of this. And it was a really scary thing, but I finally made the leap. I was like, if I want to do this full time, I have to put all my energy into it, 100%. So I kind of took the leap of faith and just did that 100% and made sure I was posting every week on a regular basis, at least 3-5 times a week so people would see me more often.

But I don’t know what the “ah-ha” moment was, but I remember that 350 people that followed me when I first started, I was like what? This is insanity!

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs} You’re like, who are you?

Juli Bauer: Yeah! I was like, how are these people finding me? This is the coolest thing ever! And I had people responding to comments. It was just such a crazy feeling that somebody I didn’t know was reading my blog, not just my friends from the gym. I think that was my first moment that I was like, ok, I could do something with this.

Diane Sanfilippo: People are paying attention. Do you remember when Facebook, when your Facebook page had 100 likes, and then 500 how it was like, who are these people?

Juli Bauer: Oh, yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: And it was crazy, and you’d celebrate.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, and people actually saw Facebook stuff? {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: Right. Back in the day.

Juli Bauer: It was so great back then.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah, and now it’s Instagram. Have you gone on Periscope yet?

Juli Bauer: NO, actually, I was just on a blog the other day and they were talking about Periscope, and I just don’t really know what it is yet, and I should…

Diane Sanfilippo: Well, I’ going to tell you right now, Juli Bauer.

Juli Bauer: People are obsessed with it.

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok, so I’m going to tell you about it right now, because I would like to be the one who pushes you into doing it, because. This won’t air for a few weeks, but hopefully after this conversation your first Periscope will happen within the next 24 hours. I’m challenging you.

Juli Bauer: Oh gosh!

Diane Sanfilippo: So, ok. The only thing I don’t like about it is, I wish you could co-Periscope. I wish it could be like, ok, me and Juli are going to do a Periscope, and both of our little faces could pop up. But what it is is it’s kind of like a FaceTime, but it’s sort of one way, because it’s just you to whoever wants to tune in. But then they can comment and ask questions. The comments and questions can get a little overwhelming, but if you’re like, ok I just wanted to show you how I make this recipe, or I want to give you some tips, like I have some questions here I’m going ask you from people about workouts and Crossfit, but if you’re like, ok we just did this workout and I’m going to tell you about it, whatever. And then you can get to the questions and the comments after.

But what I think is so fun is that you have a really fun personality and people, of course people get that from your posts. For me, I’m like, I need people to get to understand me better, so for me live video actually works better. But it’s just a really fun way to break down the perfectionism, and not worry so much. Because it’s like, I’m just going to turn this on and start talking to the people, and then people are responding. And it’s super fun!

Juli Bauer: Ok. {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs} You’re like, I don’t like this. You can also, very quickly, block people if they’re rude. You can swipe and block them.

Juli Bauer: I’ve heard; on the last podcast I was on, they said there were some trolls, you get some trolls on there.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. But we get trolls everywhere.

Juli Bauer: I know, but I feel like I’ve been pretty good with trolls, and they haven’t been so mean.

Diane Sanfilippo: The Periscope people are, I’m going to say, Periscope people are pretty cool. They’re super excited to see fun people sharing good information, so ok. I’m just going to say, just do it. Because it’s awesome. It’s really fun.

Juli Bauer: OK.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah, it’s really fun.

Juli Bauer: Good to know.

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok. I think you’ll have a good time if you maybe do some Periscopes from the road, you know? Like from your tour. That will be fun.

Juli Bauer: Oh, I like that idea.

Diane Sanfilippo: No pressure, now that I’ve you know, laid that out there.

Juli Bauer: Well you know, I’ll be by myself most of the time on the road, so I might as well and feel like I’m with people. {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: Right? I know. I love it. It’s like you get nervous before you start one, and then as soon as you start it, you’re like wait, what was I supposed to talk about, because this is so much fun! All these people are here. {Laughs}

Juli Bauer: Ok good.

Diane Sanfilippo: It’s fun.

Juli Bauer: Ok. I’m scared to download another app on the hundreds of apps we have on our phones.

Diane Sanfilippo: Just do it.

Juli Bauer: I’ve just got to do it. Ok.

9. Wedding details [23:42]

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok, we have a couple of people who are like, I don’t have a question for her, but I adore her, and Kristen from Living, Loving Paleo is one of them. There were a couple here who said the same thing.

Juli Bauer: Aww, that’s awesome! I love you guys, whoever you are!

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs} You’ll probably get to meet Kristen in San Francisco. So Beth R. Miller from Instagram wants to know, “are you having a paleo wedding? What details can you share?”

Juli Bauer: Ok, well we’re getting married in Jamaica, so the food is not my choice at all.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Nor is the cake or anything. So that’s the one thing, the one sad thing about doing destination is I couldn’t get gluten free cake or anything fancy like that. But I won’t really care, honestly, because I’m in Jamaica and I can eat cake at any point.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I literally will make cake any day of the week if I want to. So I’m not super worried about that. But our menu is actually pretty paleo. There’s like one thing that has a little appetizer that has bread, but other than that everything is like sweet potatoes, and plantains, and a soup, and different salads, and beef. It’s like the normal steak, fish, whatever. It’s pretty awesome. It’s not a paleo specific wedding, but it’s going to be a wonderful wedding! And I pick up my dress in October.

Diane Sanfilippo: Oh my gosh!

Juli Bauer: That’s another detail, and I just can’t wait. I just cannot wait to wear this dress, and I want to wear it every single day, all day.

Diane Sanfilippo: I saw pictures, so. It’s awesome. I was like really excited for you.

Juli Bauer: Thank you, I cannot wait.

10. All-time favorite recipe [25:19]

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s awesome. Ok, so back to the food. {laughs} What’s your all-time favorite recipe? Vicki Church on Instagram wants to know.

Juli Bauer: Ok, my all-time favorite recipes is one of the easiest recipes, actually, and it’s one of my most popular recipes, and it’s my 5 ingredient spaghetti squash pizza casserole. I don’t know, it has a hundred million names to it. But it’s only 5 ingredients, and you just bake it like a casserole, and it tastes super cheesy, even though it doesn’t have any cheese in it. It’s just delicious, so it’s easy to make and hey, who doesn’t want that.

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s awesome. I’ve seen that one shared a lot.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, it’s by far my most popular one.

Diane Sanfilippo: Wow.

Juli Bauer: It exceeds all the other ones.

Diane Sanfilippo: You know what, I’m really proud, and impressed, that your most popular recipe is not a treat.

Juli Bauer: I know!

Diane Sanfilippo: How do you feel about that?

Juli Bauer: I think I’ve come a long way.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs} That’s not a judgment, it’s not a judgment on you at all. It’s like, wow. I’m actually impressed by the community on that one. You go people!

Juli Bauer: Yeah, seriously. Because almost all the other ones are probably dessert, the most popular recipes.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah.

Juli Bauer: So that one, good job people! I mean it still is related to pizza, but still!

Diane Sanfilippo: But that’s ok.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: I mean, pizza is really all about tomato sauce, oregano, and or course the cheesy taste.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

11. Thoughts on paleo treats, and finding a balance [26:39]

Diane Sanfilippo: Alright, so let’s just talk for a second. This is not a question, but I’m sure; I don’t know, maybe somebody asked about this. I know people ask you all the time about eating treats, and how do you balance all that out. But let’s talk a little bit about, what’s your realistic inclusion of treats in your every day/every week lifestyle, and then what’s your take on it, the whole paleo treats thing in general? Just all the recipes that are out there? Just, what’s your take?

Tom Haverford: Three words for you. Treat. Yo. Self.

Juli Bauer: Well, I can say, what made me say that, ok I can do paleo, is a paleo treat when I found paleo treats out there. I was like, oh wow, I can do this paleo thing! So I think a paleo treat can be a really positive thing, but I think it can be negative, too. You can really overeat paleo treats and feel like it’s ok because it doesn’t have gluten in it; but it still has a ton of sugar in it, most of the time, and it’s just still a treat. That’s something we’re supposed to really just be careful with, I guess.

So for me, I’ve done the really restrictive, like, ok, I can’t have any sugar, I can’t have any desserts. And when I do that, that’s when I gorge and just eat all I can get into my face at once. So a couple, probably a year and a half, two years ago, I finally was like, you know what? F-it. I don’t care. I can have any paleo treat, or any gluten free treat whenever I want. And when I say that, it’s because when I do say that I can handle it more. So I’ll have a couple of bites of something and put it down, when in the past, I was eating as much as I could.

So for me, I just have to say, ok I can have something, and then I won’t overdo it. And I try to just stop before I’m full, instead of stopping when I’m full, and then I get more and more full over time. I try to stop before I’m full, and I’m more satisfied with having a little bit of a treat.

Diane Sanfilippo: Well that’s very balanced of you.

Juli Bauer: Yes, I try to be as balanced as possible in most things.

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Diane Sanfilippo: So, I’m going to remind people, I’ve talked a few times about this podcast that I love, it’s called Happier with Gretchen Rubin, and her sister is also the co-host, and Gretchen writes about happiness and good habits and all this good stuff. One of the things she talks about a lot is the difference between; everything she talks about, it’s like you’re either one way or another way. You tend to do this or that. She says with this type of thing, people are either abstainers or a moderator; and you're a moderator. Meaning you do fine when you’ve told yourself you can have it, if you want it, but you won’t go crazy on it because having that permission feels good and easy for you.

{laughs} Here’s the messed up thing. I’m pretty much an abstainer. I have to have none of it; but then I have to have my day to have it. So it’s weird; I tend to be better and feel more sane if I give myself the rule where, all week it’s like no treats, all week. But then Saturday comes around, and then I can have it. So during the week, I’m not feeling annoyed about not having treats, because come Saturday, I know I can have it if I want it. {laughs} I don’t know, it’s crazy.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, I mean, it took me a while to get there. Before, I was a little bit more like that, but then I would just go out of control. Like say, ok I can have something on a Sunday, but then I would be eating Oreos and like complete crap stuff. So it took me, I think years and years, to really find that balance of what works best for me.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah.

Juli Bauer: Everybody is so different that I think you need to trial those different things to find out what’s going to be the best way for you to keep this “diet” sustainable.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. I think that’s good advice, and that’s why I’m kind of showing how we both have really different ways that work, too. Because for me, the “day off”, I don’t eat gluten or, you know, if I make a paleo treat or something like that, and I’ll probably have a bunch of it. {laughs} I probably won’t have one cookie, I’ll probably have a bunch of cookies But they’ll be the healthier version that I’ve made myself, and actually don’t crave it. It’s just that psychological; it’s a treat. It’s a treat, so.

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12. What does Juli’s workout look like [32:17]

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok, we have so many good questions for you! They’re all over the place. Let’s see; of course people want to hear you talk about Crossfit and how you keep in great shape, and how you do all that. So one question from Thea Elizabeth; this is what she says. “How does she maintain such a rockin' bod? She looks awesome, and I’m just curious how many days a week does she do Crossfit? What’s a normal day of meals look like, and how often does she have treats?” Which we’ve already covered that. “Can’t wait to listen in.”

Juli Bauer: Well, so I post actually on my blog every week about my weekly workouts, and it kind of changes week to week, especially when I’m on book tour. I won’t be working out as much, and that’s just kind of how life goes. Just like when I did my book, I didn’t work out as much. I try to work out at least 5 times a week, sometimes 6. And I do Crossfit, and then I also do these classes, they’re called Fit at our gym. We have two different studios at our gym, Crossfit and Fit. And Fit is more kind of like high intensity training, so we do lightweight, we do stuff on the TRX, we do a lot of just body weight movements. And it’s like 45 minutes of work, unlike Crossfit that’s kind of broken up into lifting and short metcon. So we do a little bit more work there.

But over the years, I competed in Crossfit, so I lifted pretty heavy on a regular basis, and a couple of years ago I decided I didn’t want to compete anymore, so now I just do a much lighter version, for me, of Crossfit, and really have enjoyed that and my body has changed. I’ve lost a lot of weight changing that and I feel more comfortable in my skin, because I didn’t really recognize myself when I looked in the mirror. So this is just my version of Crossfit, and Fit. Sometimes I run. I’m like, oh I should run more often, but I don’t really like it.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: But that’s pretty much all I do, and absolutely love it. I try to do it as often as possible, but make sure I get rest days in, because I think rest days are incredibly important. So if I’m every like, oh I should work out, and I’ve worked out for 5 days in a row, I say no, let’s rest and take care of your body.

13. Explain this “lighter weight” approach to Crossfit [34:33]

Diane Sanfilippo: So, Laura Wilson on Instagram, just to kind of piggyback on that question, she said “I’d love to hear her describe the “lighter weight” approach to Crossfit. Can’t wait to hear the episode.” So what does that mean, if on the board it said the workout was a 135/95 Rx for women on something, what would you, what would Juli’s approach be for that work out?

Juli Bauer: I think it really depends on the movement. The other day we did DT, which is deadlifts, hang power cleans, and push jerks, and I’m comfortable with all that, and prescribed was 95 so I decided to do 85. If it’s like a 95 pound snatch, I’ll usually do 75 pound snatch. I try to lift pretty heavy; I’m having some knee issues, so I haven’t been squatting lately, but I’ll do snatch and try to get as heavy as I can in snatch. But it all depends on the movement. If they’re kettlebell swings, or 55 pounds I usually do 45, if it’s muscle ups I’m going to be doing pull-ups. I don’t really do chest to bar pull-ups. Yeah, I mean. I’m pretty much modifying; I know I can do a little bit more, but I know my body likes it when I do just a little bit less, as frustrating as some people here may think that sounds. But I just like to push it a little bit less, and I guess push the cardio a little bit more.

Diane Sanfilippo: I’ve basically been doing pretty much the same thing for the last couple of months. I’ve been doing some clean and jerks where I’m actually trying to get the jerk number a little bit higher; I’m trying to see how much I can get overhead, only because I actually feel stronger doing that than I have in a long time, but I’ve been doing a really similar thing. Exactly like you said, if it was something where it’s 95, I might do 75 or 85, even though I could maybe do the 95, just because my body kind of feels better. I don’t feel as beat up from it.

Juli Bauer: Exactly.

Diane Sanfilippo: And I feel like I’m recovering better. I don’t really have super high goals; like you were saying, you were competing. I’m not going to ever compete in Crossfit on any kind of level. I have other things that I feel are like my big goals in life. And I think for some people, if the competition is your goal, I think that’s awesome. Do it. But I do think it’s important for people to know that not having a season with Crossfit can cause a lot of problems for people.

If you’re going to Crossfit all year round, and you’re trying your hardest in every class, you're never giving your body a break and a break in that cycle. Which that’s not normal for athletes. Most athletes have an offseason, and Crossfit really doesn’t.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, exactly. And people want to go so hard all the time; and remember you're trying to workout forever, that’s the whole goal of working out, is to just live a healthier lifestyle. So you’ve got to take care of your body too, so busting it all the time and never letting yourself rest isn’t going to always do it.

14. Advice for figuring out best fitness routine [37:40]

Diane Sanfilippo: And then somebody, Charity Nick was asking, so kind of the same question. “With all the fitness and nutrition advice out there, how do you figure it out? What would your advice be to figuring out what works best for somebody. Is it just the process of trial and error? How long would you give each type of program?” She wants to know.

Juli Bauer: Oh, gosh that’s hard. I mean, I’ve been doing Crossfit for over 5 years at this point, and with Crossfit and the mix of paleo, I saw the difference really quickly. So that’s how I knew this Crossfit thing was actually worth doing it. I had fun while doing it, and I saw the change in my body. But it wasn’t this drastic change right away. I was doing it for 6 months probably before I saw my body start to really change shape as I started to lift more and do things that were a bit more challenging, instead of doing some pushups on my knees or assisted pull-up machine.

So I would say, give something 4 to 6 months, try it continuously doing it, because you’re not going to see a change, like we always instantly want to see. You’ve got to kind of work at it, and adjust your body, and see the difference. So give it 4-6 months, if you really love it, and see what happens.

Diane Sanfilippo: I think that’s good advice. I think it takes that first one to two with a new way of training to actually start doing it for real, you know? You know your first month of Crossfit, you're not really doing Crossfit yet. You are, but I was just talking about this with somebody. I don’t know what I was; oh, I did a Periscope video. I was saying how when you first start Crossfit, your first couple of weeks, you’re like, that’s it? That’s the whole workout? 10 minutes? Because you weren’t really going that hard yet, or you couldn’t lift that heavy yet, so it didn’t feel that hard. I think it does take that long. I’ve had the same experience with different types of fitness, and it does take several months to see how your body is going to respond, see how it feels and all that good stuff.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

15. How does Juli stay so darned cute and put together all the time? [39:45]

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok, so we have 2 questions {laughs}, the ladies want to know. {laughing} These are so funny. Jen Mulholland Yoga, and then the other one was from; oh, she posted it on Instagram and Facebook! Ok. So forget it, it’s one person asking. She wants to know how you stay so darned cute and put together all the time? Like at the gym, and also not at the gym.

Juli Bauer: Ok, first of all, I so do not look put together at the gym, so thank you for saying that.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I don’t usually have any makeup on unless I’ve been taking pictures in fashion Friday pictures. But, really put together, I mean, when I do fashion Friday pictures, I put myself together for those. So it really makes the outfit look a little bit better. But I, gosh, I don’t know how to answer that. I just try to make sure I wear a little bit of makeup almost every day; it makes me feel a little bit better in my own skin, and I’m trying to find outfits that work for my body.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs} You wear a lot of bright colors, I think that’s something that a lot of people shy away from, and I think not being afraid to put on bright colors. Like, I will put on a yellow tank top and blue pants, and just show up at the gym. I just do not even care if I’m ridiculous.

Juli Bauer: No, yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: I’m like, Scott makes fun of me sometimes. He’s like, um, did a 7-year-old pick out your clothes? No, he doesn’t say it like that, but he’s like {laughs} what are you wearing? I’m like, I don’t know, I’m just wearing it.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, I mean I really just wear whatever I have left that’s not in the laundry.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: And I really love, like I’ve always loved Lululemon, and I love Splits59 tops, and so those are my favorite because they’re always so bright, and fun, and obviously more expensive. But they’re totally worth it because they last forever.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. I have a ton of the same, we love the same tank tops from Splits59, those Ashby tanks.

Juli Bauer: Yes. I have it on right now.

Diane Sanfilippo: I have like a rainbow of them in my drawer. I would have one on.

Juli Bauer: They’re the best. They’re so comfortable.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. They’re awesome. And they’re super long, so they’re even good for handstand pushup days, so your shirt doesn’t fall over your head or anything.

Juli Bauer: Totally.

16. Determining blog content versus book content [42:15]

Diane Sanfilippo: Those are perfect. Oh my goodness, ok so Whole Ben wants to know, “How do you decide what posts and recipes to put online versus in your books?”

Juli Bauer: Oh, that one’s hard. When I write my books, I am blogging less because all those recipes are going into the book. I want some of my best recipes really to be in the book. In this third cookbook, I wanted these recipes to be the best, so I really knew that I wanted to do a flourless chocolate cake. I knew exactly what I wanted to do; I wanted to do frosting on it because that’s not something I always do on my blog. So those recipes that I know were really game changers for me, I wanted to put that into my book.

So when I’m writing a book, I just blog less, and that’s how I kind of pick what recipes, but I make sure to put as many as I can on the blog too. I tried to put my best recipes of all time in this new cookbook, for sure.

Diane Sanfilippo: I think it definitely shows. It’s a good combination of stuff; it looks special, but I can tell it’s really simple. Like you were saying, the ingredients are simple, and they’re just easy things that people know about. But putting things together in a different way to just be exciting, because that’s really hard. Do you hit points; this is just me shooting the breeze. Do you hit points where you’re like, I don’t know what else to make. It’s all been made, and there are no more recipes. I’m done.

Juli Bauer: Oh my gosh, yeah. You’re like, literally there are no more recipes to ever make. That’s totally what I got to. In any cookbook, because I know there’s a timeline, when I can just blog freely, things just flow. Creativity just flows out. But when it’s like, ok your deadline is October 1st, whatever it may be.

Diane Sanfilippo: The worst. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I’m like, ok, I’m lost. I have nothing. Literally nothing left. So I definitely went through a lull in the middle of my book. My third trip, I was like, I have nothing left, I don’t know what to make. Because I had two trips that were really back to back, so I didn’t have any time to cook in between. But then things would just come up. Like I had extra sweet potatoes, so I tried to make something with that. I had extra chicken, made something with that. Yeah, it’s really hard to do both at the same time, but it happens, and you figure it out, and it comes together.

Diane Sanfilippo: Were you always a really creative person, or is this just something new since cooking a lot with paleo and all of that?

Juli Bauer: I guess I was creative. I was always the artsy type person, the person who, what did I do. I was always in choir, and doing singing competition, so I was in that kind of creativity, but not like drawing creativity. So I would say, I’m sure my mom would be like, yes she’s so creative. But I’m an only child, so of course she would say that.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: So yeah, I guess I have a little creative side.

Diane Sanfilippo: She doesn’t have anything to compare it to?

Juli Bauer: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. {laughs} But I love, like I love coming up with new recipes, and it’s been really fun. After working with Bill and Hayley, it inspired me more to get better at photography, and I’m liking that side a little bit more. So those are all the creative aspects that I never thought I’d be into that I’m kind of liking more and more as I try to create this blog as a better and better blog.

17. How to shift thinking for a business [45:37]

Diane Sanfilippo: What do you think you’ve learned through this whole process of starting a business; well, starting the blog, realizing it is a business, and I definitely want to grab you one day and be like, let’s do an episode on the Build a Badass Business show, because I think we could talk a little bit more about stuff over there. But just to kind of peek into this; through all of that, and through the evolution of that, and through writing cookbooks, what’s something that you feel like you’ve learned about all of it that now that you’re on the inside, you want to tell people who are out there who are fans and followers, and they’re readers, and they kind of are involved in this community, but they’re not on the other side of it. What’s something you want people to know about being on the side that we’re on, I guess?

Juli Bauer: Ugh, that’s hard Diane.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I wasn’t ready for that. We were just talking about treats, and then you bust that out.

Diane Sanfilippo: I like to keep it all over the board.

Juli Bauer: I know, that’s why you’re so good at what you do.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs} I’m not trying to make you cry, so don’t worry. It’s not like a Barbara Walter’s interview.

Juli Bauer: I know. Oh my god, I’m crying over here.

Diane Sanfilippo: No, but I think you’re one of those people who, when you started this whole thing, you were very much like, I had no idea it could be a business, and I pretty much always knew it would be a business. Everything I do that’s kind of a random creative thing, I’m like, how can this be a business? That’s how I always approach it. So I’m really curious, what’s the thing that you’re like, ok now that I’m in this thing, somebody else who maybe is just getting started, or people who are reading things and they maybe don’t realize certain this about it.

Juli Bauer: I mean, I definitely have gotten to that point where I’m trying to be like you. My dog is rubbing his face all over the floor.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I have gotten to that point where I’m trying to think like that/ I’m like, what is this post going to do for my business. How is it going to come across, why am I putting it out there? I’m constantly trying to think of those things. But really in business, for me, it’s going with my gut and my gut is not always right. So working with different people and working with different businesses, sometimes you’ve really got to trust your gut and know what people to work with I don’t know if that sounds right.

Diane Sanfilippo: Well actually, I think what you just said, going with your gut but your gut is not always right, I actually think that’s a really good little pearl of wisdom. Because I would say the exact same thing is true for me. There are decisions that I’ve made about business, where I went with my gut, I’m like, this is what I really believe is the right thing to do, and in hindsight, it wasn’t. But I think what makes you good at what you’re doing that you may not realize {laughs}.

I ‘m always a little bit of the big sister, and a mentor to everyone who is writing a book that wants to talk to me about it. I’m always like, here’s what I think. But you actually have a really good instinct that if that thing didn’t turn out, you pick yourself up and you turn around and you do something else.

Juli Bauer: Exactly.

Diane Sanfilippo: You get it going it again. You don’t just get down and be like, well I’m not good at this so forget that.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. I’ve completely had projects where I’m like, you know, that wasn’t the right direction, that wasn’t the right thing I should have done, like redesigning my website, working with someone with that, I’m like, why did I work with that person! Different things like that, but you just keep moving, and you find a new thing.

Just because something failed doesn’t mean your business is going to fail, and I think sometimes that’s what pushes people down, is that something failed and they’re like, ok it’s not worth moving on. I think that’s something I’ve tried to do, is keep pressing on. Maybe my followers drop or something, I’m not getting as much interaction, I don’t let that fail. I just keep saying, ok what can I do that will better my business, and show people my business more so they can interact. That sort of thing.

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok, that’s awesome.

Juli Bauer: Good! Ok, good.

Diane Sanfilippo: You’re so cute. You’re like; yeah, no that’s great. People are asking about Jackson; how’s Jackson doing? The photos are adorable. So we’re getting a lot of fan adoration, I guess I would call it.

Juli Bauer: People love this dog! He’s just the greatest.

Diane Sanfilippo: He is.

Juli Bauer: He’s literally the greatest.

Diane Sanfilippo: He’s so cute.

Juli Bauer: I get why people post a billion pictures of their children and for me, I don’t like children that much, so I’m like, why are you posting so many pictures!

Diane Sanfilippo: Juli, I knew there was something about you that we were kindred spirits!

Juli Bauer: Yes!

Diane Sanfilippo: We have a lot of things that we’re really different about, but that’s one. It’s not personal to anyone, it’s not like, I’m not trying to be rude, I just have trouble relating to children.

Juli Bauer: Yep.

Diane Sanfilippo: I don’t know why. And I can’t play make believe. I like older kids when I can have a conversation with them, I do ok with that.

Juli Bauer: Totally.

Diane Sanfilippo: I’m like, you want to come cook with me? Awesome. Now we can be friends {laughs}.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. Yes exactly. Kids I just don’t connect with. But I get why people post a million pictures, because you feel so connected to your child, obviously you birthed them, or whatever else. But that’s how I feel with Jackson. I feel so connected to him, it’s insane.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: But all I want to do is post pictures of him. I’ve kind of calmed down about that because he’s an adult now.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah.

Juli Bauer: But still, I love that dog. I love him so dang much.

Diane Sanfilippo: He is awesome.

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18. Maintaining privacy with a public life [52:01]

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok, so this is kind of on the heels of that. Little Honeybee is asking, “Having your life “out there”, how do you decide what you share and what you don’t share? Navigating the public and private balance in this crazy social world of ours isn’t easy. I’d love to hear her thoughts on this, and her philosophy.”

Juli Bauer: Yeah, I try to keep my personal stuff pretty quiet. So my relationships, I just keep those more to myself. My fiancé, I do not post any pictures of him, because that part is for me. And that’s how I felt; I think if I ever had a child, I don’t know if I’d post many pictures, because I just don’t want their whole life on my own social media. If they want to post when they can make that decision, I totally support that, and I feel the same way with my fiancé. If he wants to post pictures of us, he totally can, but this is my PaleOMG world, and even though I share a lot of it, he doesn’t get to make that decision of sharing pictures on mine. So I just keep that part of my life private.

I’ll share pictures of our wedding that his face isn’t really in, and share details of it because it’s such a big time and exciting time, but I just like to keep that part private. But that’s pretty much all I keep private. Because that’s the only point I feel like I have to. Everything else, I’m pretty good with sharing. I’m a pretty open person.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. I think it’s hard not to be, too, because when you’re just genuine and this is a big part of; it’s your real life. It’s not like, oh I just write these paleo recipes and it’s not my actual life. Like that would be different, you know. I think there are some cookbook authors out there who just write a cookbook, but it’s not their whole life, and this is like {laughs} when we write a book, we write the recipes, we cook the food, and take the pictures, and most cookbooks out there are not even made that way.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, and people don’t know that!

Diane Sanfilippo: No. It’s crazy, and I think you can tell. I have this thing, and it’s not to be offensive to anyone who didn’t take the pictures for their own book, or didn’t have that direct cook the food. First of all, if you cooked the food, there’s just something different that happens with the soul of the photos, and the soul of the book. When I flip through a book that I know the author did all of that, you can tell. You can tell that this is how Juli cooks it, and this is how Juli wants it to look. It has a totally different feeling than a book when a food stylist and food photographer do all of that. It just lacks soul to me in this different way.

Juli Bauer: Yeah, I completely agree. And that’s what was so great about this book, doing it by myself and working with Bill and Hayley. I mean, there’s even a couple of spoon shots that you can kind of see Bill and Hayley taking the pictures. That’s kind of fun in a way that we were 100% part of this book, and 110% of my soul went into this book. My voice is in it, my recipes are in it. My heart and soul, as cheesy as that is, are in this book. And I really want people to feel that. I really hope they feel that with this book, because it’s all there. It’s all out there.

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s awesome. So, anything else you want to tell people about the book, the blog? I know you have a tour coming up, so, they can find out book tour information, right?

Juli Bauer: Yep. You can go to my blog, at the top there’s a book tour tab. It says book tour 2015, and I’m stopping all over, east coast and west coast and a little bit in between. So feel free to check that out, because then you can sign up with the event, if there’s a sign up you can sign up there and come join me. You can find the book on Amazon right now, and it will be in book stores like Barnes and Noble, and all kinds of other stores that I’ll be putting on my site and updating that on a regular basis as more come in, but yeah. Just come visit me on book tour! Come say hello! Hopefully have some snacks, and grab the book. I just hope everybody loves it as much as I do.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yay! I’m so excited for you. I’m so excited for this tour. I can’t wait to see pictures. I saw you were already picking out outfits, which is so fun!

Juli Bauer: Oh my gosh, I have so many to go. I have like 4 outfits picked out, and like 15 stops, so I better get going.

Diane Sanfilippo: I can’t wait to see all of it.

Juli Bauer: {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: So you guys probably all know this already, but you can find Juli @PaleOMG on Instagram, and I’m going to just throw it out there. You’ll probably be @PaleOMG on Periscope. It’ll be linked to your Twitter account; which you have a Twitter, right?

Juli Bauer: Yes, I do.

Diane Sanfilippo: PaleOMG.

Juli Bauer: I never use that either. I need to really get with the times.

Diane Sanfilippo: Well. I’m going to start prodding you {laughs} but I think that will be super fun. And of course, you can find Juli at Don’t forget, you can find me, Diane, at And Liz at And also, if you would, while you’re on the internet, please leave us a review in iTunes. We would love to see your thoughts on the show. We’ve been doing this for about 4 years now, so we still love to see new faces, new names, new comments, all that good stuff. Also, don’t forget, hop on our email lists; we love to send free goodies and updates that you don’t find anywhere else on our websites or even on this podcast. We’ll see you next week.

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