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Podcast Episode #288: Travel Tips: On-the-Go Options, Bringing Baby, Beauty, & Baggage

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  1. News and updates from Diane & Liz [7:02]
  2. Reader feedback from episode 278 [14:22]
  3. Recap of Diane's travels to NTA and Expo West [21:04]
  4. Reader feedback from episode 285 [32:33]
  5. Diane's travel tips: Lodging [38:56]
  6. Diane's travel tips: Air and car travel [42:47]
  7. Liz's tips: traveling with kids [47:50]
  8. Diane's travel tips: Final quick tips [59:39]


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You’re listening to the Balanced Bites podcast episode 288.

Diane Sanfilippo: Welcome to the Balanced Bites podcast. I’m Diane; a certified nutrition consultant, and the New York Times bestselling author of Practical Paleo and The 21-Day Sugar Detox. I live in San Francisco with my husband and fur kids; and I love that I got some quality time with two of my good friends recently in real life; Cassy Joy from Fed and Fit at the NTA conference, and Jenny from Paleo Foodie Kitchen at Expo West.

Liz Wolfe: I’m Liz; a nutritional therapy practitioner, and author of the Wall Street Journal bestseller Eat the Yolks; The Purely Primal Skincare Guide; and the online program Baby Making and Beyond. I live on a farm in the mystical land of the Midwest, outside of Kansas City, and I need to catch up on the Balanced Bites podcast.

We’re the co-creators of the Balanced Bites Master Class, and we’ve been bringing you this award winning podcast for 5 years and counting. We’re here to share our take on modern paleo living, answer your questions, and chat with leading health and wellness experts. Enjoy this week’s episode, and submit your questions at Remember our disclaimer: The materials and content within this podcast are intended as general information only, and are not to be considered a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.

Before we get started, let’s hear from one of our sponsors.

Liz Wolfe: The Balanced Bites podcast is sponsored in part by the Nutritional Therapy Association. The NTA trains and certifies nutritional therapy practitioners and consultants (including me; I’m an NTP), emphasizing bio-individuality and the range of dietary strategies that support wellness. The NTA emphasizes local, whole, properly prepared nutrient dense foods as the key to restoring balance and enhancing the body’s ability to heal. Nutritional therapy practitioners and consultants learn a wide range of tools and techniques to assess and correct nutritional imbalances. To learn lots more about the nutritional therapy program, go to There are workshop venues in the US, Canada, and Australia, so chances are you’ll be able to find a venue that works for you.

Liz Wolfe: hey everyone, it’s me Liz, here with Diane once again.

Diane Sanfilippo: Hey.

Liz Wolfe: Hey buddy.

Diane Sanfilippo: We’re back!

Liz Wolfe: You’ve done a good job!

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Liz Wolfe: I haven’t been around.

Diane Sanfilippo: Gold star for me.

Liz Wolfe: I actually had a few comments on my Instagram post for the recent podcast with Dr. Shanahan with people saying, “Favorite episode ever.” “This was by far the best you’ve done.” And I’m like; great, I wasn’t there. {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: Well it was a really good episode, despite your absence. I was very self-indulgent interviewing Dr. Cate; and also we took tons of questions from listeners who had submitted them over on the Instagram page. It was good. It was really good. She did a great job of explaining why vegetable oils are so bad; which I think is kind of the, I don’t know; it’s the ongoing question and problem of real food nutrition, you know?

Liz Wolfe: Mm-hmm.

Diane Sanfilippo: It’s this balance back and forth of, we know we don’t want to eat them but we constantly need a reminder or a refresher on why. So I thought she did a really excellent job explaining that, so if you missed that episode, definitely go back and listen to it. It’s two back from today’s episode.

What else did we; we got into some stuff about statins and cholesterol and all of that; and she kind of dropped a truth bomb, quote, what have you; and I have to go see, actually, if we had it. It was, she said, “The idea that saturated fat was bad for us destroyed our relationship with food.”

Liz Wolfe: Mmmm.

Diane Sanfilippo: And I just thought that that was; that was huge, you know. Because it did. It somehow exposed this idea that traditional food wasn’t ok.

Liz Wolfe: Mm-hmm.

Diane Sanfilippo: You know what I mean? Not exposed; yeah, it attempted to vilify that. That whole notion; vilifying saturated fat. I feel like that was the first time, you know, that anybody ever questioned traditional wisdom about food, right?

Liz Wolfe: Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: Maybe there were folks who, at some point, had this ethical feeling about not eating animals before the vegetarian movement; but the low-fat stuff kind of came in at the same time.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah; I can see that. I think there had definitely been a slippery slope up to that point where more and more processed food and less and less home cooking; and trans fats entered the food supply; industrially processed flours and sugars, and nutrient stripped foods, but those were all things that were happening that people weren’t really aware of. They were happening, and people were getting sicker, and these ingredients were present, but that whole saturated fat deal was the first time that people were like, “Oh, I know this, and now I’m going to take these actions because of it; saturated fat is bad.” And it was really that death knell; that axe that kind of divided us from our food with this perceived knowledge that turned out to be completely wrong.

Like, ignorance sometimes really is bliss; and while knowledge can be power, it can also be incredibly {laughs} incredibly dangerous when it sends you down the wrong path. So I love that; and I think that’s the quote people were really liking on my Instagram. So I’m excited to get caught up.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. I’m still curious, too; this is totally a tangent, but I’m curious what folks who study journalism and media; I’m curious what they would say about that period of time with the way information was disseminated. And at what point in time was it ok to disseminate information that really just isn’t founded in truth? I don’t know; I’m really curious about that, and how much the faster spread of information maybe lead to that being something people would follow. But also, of course like you were saying; processed foods and more readily available foods. So yeah, just really interesting disaster that happened with our food supply.

Liz Wolfe: A really interesting disaster.

Diane Sanfilippo: A really interesting disaster.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah. Hmm. On that note, I really miss the show Mad Men. I really do.

Diane Sanfilippo: Ugh. I know. I didn’t watch the last couple of seasons.

Liz Wolfe: Well, you had to wait like 3 years to get to the last couple of seasons, so I understand.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah, they kind of messed up that whole instant gratification situation.

Liz Wolfe: I hear that. So.

Diane Sanfilippo: So.

1. News and updates from Diane & Liz [7:02]

Liz Wolfe: So what are your updates, friend? What have you been up to?

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs} I just, sorry. It’s just Mean Girls every time you say, what has anybody been up to.

Liz Wolfe: {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: Well I’m finally home for the foreseeable future. We’ll have a weekend we’re going to a friend’s wedding coming up, but basically I’ve been traveling a whole bunch; which is one of the reasons why today’s episode will be centered around travel when we get to questions and just kind of the main topic that we’re talking about. But happy to be home; it’s a beautiful day in San Francisco, so that’s quite nice.

The 21-Day Sugar Detox coaches program; a lot of folks have been wondering about when we’re going to open it back up again, because we didn’t end up opening it last year. I couldn’t really talk about why it wasn’t opening, because until the end of the year when I was able to tell people that the new edition of Practical Paleo was coming out; I was writing that book for minimum the first 6 months of last year. And it really just kind of takes me out of the game for focusing on some other projects, and being able to support our coaches. So, we will be opening that up in May. I’m not exactly sure the date it will be opened, but it will open for a couple of weeks for enrollment, and then the course will begin. And I want to say it’s like 6-8 weeks; it just kind of depends on what holidays may fall within the timeframe we release modules.

It’s not like the Master Class; the Master Class is actually teaching kind of more nutrition information to our practitioners and then also helping them use it with clients. 21-Day Sugar Detox coaches program is very, very specifically for nutrition practitioners, health coaches, personal trainers; anybody who is already working with people; typically in groups but you can totally use it one-on-one. The program is very specific to helping you use the 21-Day Sugar Detox with your clients. So we walk you through exactly what to talk about in session 1, session 2, session 3. You can alter that if you want to; but if you want a script, you want something really specific, know what to talk about; all the stuff that we know makes it easier for you to actually do your job, that’s what’s in this program. So there will be a lot more information out on the website in the coming weeks so that you guys can see what it’s all about, then the enrollment will open.

I know we’ve had a lot of people kind of on a wait list for it. There isn’t necessarily a limit to how many people we will allow to enroll, but if I notice it getting a little hectic, then I may put out a note that’s like; “Hey, we’re going to close enrollment.” But chances are we’ll be ok. I think that the team I have in place now, Holly who manages the program; I think we’re able to really handle all of that, and support you guys through it. So, anyway, if you guys have more questions about it, please feel free to hop over to the website, comment on the blog post for this episode. I’ll do my best to answer questions, but again more information will be coming out about that pretty soon.

And if you visit you’ll be able to sign up for the waitlist to be notified when it’s open. And there is a Facebook group; it’s 21-Day Sugar Detox coaches interest group, and I definitely post in there as soon as it’s open because that’s really where folks have kind of been collecting up, wanting to hear the news. So there’s that. And I’m really excited to open that program again, because our coaches are; I just love all of our practitioners. I love our students too; but our practitioners just make me feel really proud; because even though you and I aren’t working one on one with people or in small groups anymore, it’s like we got to impart some wisdom and support on folks through the Master Class and the Coaches program for that kind of work, so I’m just really grateful to be able to do that. So there’s that. What’s going on with you?

Liz Wolfe: Well, the Master Class gets the final module, I think tomorrow. Which is crazy.

Diane Sanfilippo: I kind of can’t believe {laughs}. It finally launched out, and we had our full inaugural class, which has been awesome.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: It’s been pretty cool watching people go through it.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah, it has. And thinking about {laughs} just thinking about the years of lead in; well first of all, it makes me a little bit, it gives me a little bit of peace with how long Baby Making and Beyond is taking, because I do think; it was all worth it. All of the lead in, all of the years of work, totally worth it. Reaching an amazing group of people; I just feel like it was all meant to be. But now that it’s like; wow, wow. We did it. We didn’t just do it, we did it! {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: I think we recorded the intro/outro videos the winter of 2013.

Liz Wolfe: Oh my gosh, that’s so crazy.

Diane Sanfilippo: Like, end of 2013.

Liz Wolfe: And I look exactly the same.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughing}

Liz Wolfe: {laughing} Thanks, Beautycounter!

Diane Sanfilippo: My eyebrows look way better, but. {laughs} Honestly, yeah, my skin, all these oils have really been helping, by the way.

Liz Wolfe: I just sent out a batch of C-ex samples, the product I do with Primal Life Organics; and I feel like, with how excited the people that were getting them were, I just see them all pouring; like, pouring the entire sample all over their face, just in one shot.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughing}

Liz Wolfe: Just waking up, looking like; it’s like that scene in The Jerk where Bernadette Peters is putting a mask on some old man, and then she peels off the mask and it’s Navin Johnson. Never mind. {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: Never; nope, never seen it. No.

Liz Wolfe: Never mind. They’re all going to be new people.

Diane Sanfilippo: It’s been like 5 years you’ve been talking about that movie; I’m a terrible friend. I need to go watch it.

Liz Wolfe: You’re not. You're a lovely friend. You’re a wonderful friend.

Diane Sanfilippo: You need to go watch Going Clear and I’m going to watch The Jerk. Does that sound fair?

Liz Wolfe: Wait, didn’t I watch Going Clear? Is that the Leah Remini one?

Diane Sanfilippo: Did you? No. {laughs} But similar.

Liz Wolfe: Ok.

Diane Sanfilippo: I think we need a whole separate podcast to talk about our actual …

Liz Wolfe: Our actual interests? {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: Pop culture interests. {laughs}

Liz Wolfe: Yeah, that’s what I meant; our actual interests. {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: Aside from… I’m so glad we have long-time listeners who know that we have brains so that the people who hear this stuff and they’re like; this podcast is just fluff. I’m like, we’ve got 290 episodes under our belts here! {laughs}

Liz Wolfe: Haters going to hate.

Diane Sanfilippo: There needs to be fluff.

Liz Wolfe: We have nothing to prove. We’ve got books with extensive reference sections. We’ve used words like interrobang and, you know; hypomethylation. I mean, this is my favorite stuff on podcasts. When I get to listen to podcasts; I like the banter. But I understand, not everybody does. It’s ok.

Diane Sanfilippo: I know. Everybody needs to know that we’re actually human.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: So. And our podcast listeners are our favorite people; I mean, let’s be honest {laughs}.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah, yeah. 100%.

Diane Sanfilippo: So anyways.

Liz Wolfe: Ok.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah, let’s keep rolling.

2. Reader feedback from episode 278 [14:22]

Liz Wolfe: Alright, so we wanted to share a little bit of listener feedback; and this was really, really cool to hear from folks. A few episodes back, episode 278, we talked a little bit about eating disorder recovery and how it’s handled. We had a really good, really deep question from someone about this, and I really encourage folks to listen to episode 278 because I thought it was a really good conversation.

But we got this feedback, and I wanted to share it, because I think it will be really of interest to a lot of folks. “First of all, hi and thank you so much to the both of you for being the most all-encompassing duo in the wellness industry I have come across. I just listened to episode 278; I know I’m behind, and I wanted to commend the two of you on addressing eating disorders in such an open-minded way.”

I don’t know if you can hear my child, but she’s {laughs} doing a Gregorian chant in the other room. I’m not really sure what’s going on.

“I wanted to commend the two of you on addressing eating disorders in such an open-minded way. I struggled with anorexia starting early in my middle school days, into high school and college. The disorder eventually morphed into over a decade of bulimia. I spent a lot of time in therapy and programs, and the biggest struggle I faced was the mindset in which my legitimate sensitivities to gluten, wheat, and soy were not taken into consideration. It was basically told to me at one point that my sensitivities were my own psychological short-comings, and that I used them to hide behind instead of facing my eating disorder ways.

Now, I completely own having an eating disorder. I was eyeballs deep in a terrible struggle within myself that I admittedly sometimes still struggle with. However, my physiological reactions; bloating, joint pain, fogginess, malaise, etc., to certain foods were ignored and I was told these symptoms were side effects of restriction, as well as a binge-purge cycle. Being a young, educated adult I felt torn between thinking I was crazy and that maybe it was eating disorder related, and yet knowing that my body was reacting to foods that were literally poisoning me.

The moral of this story was that I so related to and felt validated by your conversation about eating disorders; and hope that while individuals with eating disorders do require a certain level of challenge and pressure to step out of comfort zones, and change their mindset of “bad foods” etc., we’re not except from serious food sensitivities. It’s been about a year of working on intuitive eating, and following a paleo-ish lifestyle; and you know, I could surely make a case for quality of living when you’re eating the foods that are right for your body. My mental health has increased 10-fold with consistent nutrition that works with my life and my individual body. I find that I don’t feel as easily triggered to restrict or binge when I’m eating foods that are easier to digest, and don’t have me in the fetal position due to pain; go figure.

I’m so frustrated with real food being under attack and for people like me, who have this mental health label on my chart, getting slack for wanting to lead a healthy lifestyle without symptoms of very real food sensitivities. Why can’t it be that I have educated myself and shaped my idea of health and wellness; morphing from a restrictive mindset to a nourishing one? The mental health stigma is real, and it feels like, in my experience, I can’t walk into my doctor’s office and tell the truth about how I eat, even though it’s a balanced, nutrient dense, and healthful; or my sensitivities/intolerances without being berated about my history of an eating disorder and making sure I’m still seeing a therapist, like a therapist will help me work through my severe joint pain or migraine headaches that I get from certain foods.

Anyway; end rant, and I just really wanted to say that I give mad props to you for addressing this and allowing for some open-mindedness around the topic. I felt so validated and wanted to give you a big thank you. Real food for the win.” End feedback.

I just deeply appreciated this.

Diane Sanfilippo: I love that.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah. Because we felt a little, I think; not unsure about talking about it in the way we did, but it was definitely, we were aware of treading in some choppy waters when we had that conversation. And it was just neat to hear from someone who was appreciative of the direction we took. And that’s not to say that folks don’t blame; not blame, but folks don’t use “healthy eating” as an excuse to kind of cover deeper disordered eating; but there is a flip side to that, as well.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. Actually I think; I don’t know if it was in his new book, in Robb’s book Wired to Eat where he talks about how if somebody comes into a doctor’s office; or, I mean he posts on Facebook a lot so I can’t remember if it was simply a post there, but I think it’s in the book. Where if someone comes into a doctor’s office and says something about eating paleo, low-carb, or keto; what have you, that they kind of get marked off as being orthorexic off the bat. And it’s really messed up.

And I actually think; we’ve talked about it several times on the podcast over the years, and every time I think we tried it pretty similarly; we’re not eating disorder experts, we’re not psychologists or psychiatrists, any of that. But I think this is really where it’s up to those who are coaching people and the therapist who are working with people on that stuff to be extremely aware of the reality of food intolerances, and food allergies, and all of that. So that they become sensitive to that, as much as we need to be sensitive to things that might trigger disordered eating behaviors. We’re aware that things we talk about could trigger that; I think it’s just as fair for them to be aware that there are realties around not wanting to eat certain foods that are not an issue of an eating disorder. Do you know what I mean?

Just because I don’t want to eat your Twinkies doesn’t mean I have a disordered eating problem or issue. And there just needs to be a balance there. I think it’s not black and white, and I think that’s hard. There’s so much gray area, and I think that because when it comes to issues of disordered eating, there’s a lot of deception that goes on there, that it’s hard to find that line. It’s hard to find the line when someone is actually struggling with the food intolerance, or using that as an excuse; as this listener had mentioned. So yeah, I definitely appreciate that feedback. We always want to be helpful in the things that we share, but you know, we know our limits. So anyway, thank you for that feedback.

3. Recap of Diane’s travels to NTA and Expo West [21:04]

Liz Wolfe: Yep. Alright, so Diane, I would actually like to ask you please, for some recaps on your recent travels, your events. The NTA conference and the Expo West that you went to.

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok, so I’m going to keep the recap portion of this brief so we can get into some more tips; but let’s see. NTA conference was; was that over 3 days? I think we had 3 days there. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. We had a great time; so myself and a handful of the women from my team. Holly, who is on my kind of core team; and then we had Cassie Kanable and Kym Herrmann who are both 21-Day Sugar Detox certified coaches, and they’ve helped moderate on different parts of the team, different groups, etc. For many, many years. And everybody kind of manning the booth and chatting with folks about the program. It was really fun to have women who are coaches, you know, talking to people about the program. And lots of folks came over asking questions about what the difference are between the Master Class and the coaches program, for example. So that was just really fun for me and for all of us to be able to speak with NTA students and grads about what the programs are.

But it was a nice weekend. Super nice crowd, of course. It’s all pretty mellow; it’s NTA folks. I love the way the event is organized where; for anybody who hasn’t gone; and I believe they do one on the east coast, as well, and I believe it’s kind of the same deal, but I imagine it would be. While the sessions are happening, basically if there’s a break and everyone is kind of talking to vendors and checking things out, they come out and ring a bell {laughs}. It’s like the class bell, everybody is going to go into sessions when the bell rings, and then when the sessions are done, everybody goes out to see the vendors. And I just found that very organized, and chill, and helpful, as someone who had a booth kind of exhibiting and talking about things. Because I could go into a talk and not worry that people would expect me to be at my booth. I was like; well I want to go hear Dr. Wahls talk; so that was really cool to me.

So I just love the way it was organized. Lots of really cool vendors, lots of great stuff to check out. I thought; I don’t know, we’re definitely going to be back there next year. I love being in Portland and in that area. It’s a great time to just be able to connect with other people. You do not have to be an NTA student or grad or at all involved with the NTA program to go. I think those of us who are grads of the Bauman program; or if you went to IIN, or any nutrition program. Or you’re just curious about learning about nutrition, if you’re a Master Class student, for example, and you were just trying to figure out if you want to study nutrition further. I think it’s a great event, and we had a great time.

Obviously, NTA is one of our sponsors of this podcast, and we only have sponsors on the show that are doing things that we love. So just a great time; definitely glad that we did that; glad that we were a sponsor of the event and had a booth, and we’ll definitely be back again. So great event. So there’s that. {laughs} That’s my quick recap of that.

We will be bringing Dr. Wahls on the show very soon, so be on the lookout. If you haven’t already seen it; I’m not sure, I get the dates all screwed up with when the episode airs versus when we’re recording, etc. But be on the lookout for that episode and perhaps for a graphic that’s for questions for Dr. Wahls coming up. So that will be cool. I just think she’s doing awesome work.

And then Expo West. So for people who don’t know; it’s called the natural products expo, and it happens on the west coast and on the east coast. The one on the west coast is known to be basically the biggest natural products expo that there is. I want to say that there were 80,000 attendees, which is kind of mind blowing.

Liz Wolfe: Are you kidding me? 80,000?

Diane Sanfilippo: There were not even 1,000 at the NTA conference; I want to say it’s around 700 people at the NTA conference {laughs} just to draw a scale comparison. Expo West is definitely; if you want to see everything that’s there, or most of everything, you need the full number of days of the Expo to do that, which is basically; it’s almost 4 days. It’s like 3.5 days of the Expo. And I walked about 15 miles {laughs} just walking the expo floors.

So it’s a trade show; it’s generally open to folks who are retailers are wholesalers and buyers; people who have small independent grocery stores; people who work for companies like Whole Foods and Natural Grocers and Sprouts and all those places; manufacturers. It’s a trade show; but if you’re a health practitioner, and you can submit your credentials to their website. And don’t come asking me what the credentials are and how to get approved; go to the Natural Product Expo website, you’ll be able to find it all there. But you can submit your credentials and you can apply for a health practitioner badge; or, if you have a pretty solid social media following; and I believe you need to also have a website or a blog. I can’t remember because I just submitted it and forgot whatever happened. You can get a pass as press; which is what I did this year. Last year I did the health practitioner one, and I think I just didn’t want to have dig up my credentials. I don’t think you have to mail in a certificate or a photo of it, I think you just need to somehow prove who you are.

So I went as press. It just changes whatever it says on your badge. So sometimes the folks who are at the booth; they're looking at your badge to see who you are, so they might just have a different reception of you depending on what your badge says. Some people are super excited if you’re press, because they’re like, “Oh, take a picture of my product!” they really want you to go out and talk about it. Understandably so.

But it’s really cool going to it, especially at this time, because as we talked about with the snack episode; there are a lot of new products coming out. There’s really not any new foods, so to speak, but there are new ways to kind of combine them and make them more convenient and have healthy options that are available on the go. So it’s pretty cool. There’s tons of stuff that’s paleo friendly; tons that’s gluten-free friendly. I am writing a blog post {laughs} and I hate to even say those words. “I’m working on a blog post,” it’s like {laughs} it escapes my mouth and I want to just pull it back and be like; no, don’t tell them that. But actually by the time this airs, hopefully it will be out. I’m trying to just get it done today, tomorrow, so that it’s done and everything is fresh in my mind, talking about some of the trends that we saw and all of that.

But just kind of know that there are tons of cool products coming out all the time. Some of people’s favorite jerky brands we all know about like Epic bar and The New Primal; broth companies, also Epic bar, Bonafide, Bare Bones; I’m trying to think of all the broth companies.

Liz Wolfe: Kettle and fire?

Diane Sanfilippo: They’ve all got new products coming out. Hmm?

Liz Wolfe: I don’t know, I was trying to think of one; Kettle and Fire?

Diane Sanfilippo: Oh Kettle and Fire. Yeah, yep. Kettle and Fire. I didn’t see a new product from them, but they were definitely there. A lot of them have new products coming out, so. It’s just fun to see that because it means that this movement is growing. And broth is definitely everywhere. Broth was the new black at the expo.

Liz Wolfe: {laughing}

Diane Sanfilippo: It was kind of everywhere. There were a lot of different kinds of it. There was collagen in a bunch of foods. I mean, we could talk about more trends that we saw, but they’re not all that relevant to that listeners. Like chickpeas everywhere; literally chickpeas everywhere. Every time I turned my head.

Liz Wolfe: Really?

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah.

Liz Wolfe: Wow.

Diane Sanfilippo: Chickpea flour, chickpea this. I think because it’s gluten free, so that’s really easy for people to use; high starch, it can be used for a lot of different things. Primal Kitchen Foods has a new mayonnaise. {laughs} Mayonnaise.

Liz Wolfe: Mayonnaise.

Diane Sanfilippo: Mayonnaise. {laughs} They have an egg-free mayo that is coming out.

Liz Wolfe: What?! What’s in it?

Diane Sanfilippo: Algae oil and I don’t know what else.

Liz Wolfe: Whoa, that’s weird.

Diane Sanfilippo: I forget. I mean, I’m not interested in egg-free mayo because I’m eating eggs.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: But, I know they have lots of folks who are definitely kind of on the vegan tip who would want that. Or people who are allergic to eggs; which is so sad. That’s probably the worst food allergy, I think.

Liz Wolfe: {laughing}

Diane Sanfilippo: I think it would be the hardest one.

Liz Wolfe: I think dark chocolate would be way worse.

Diane Sanfilippo: I don’t know, I think eggs is pretty tough.

Liz Wolfe: What if you were allergic to coffee, dark chocolate, and eggs? I can’t even.

Diane Sanfilippo: I would, life would not be worth living. That’s really harsh to say, but whatever. You just asked what would happen if I was allergic to basically my 3 favorite food groups; so come on. So I’ll write about more trends. And then next year what I’m definitely going to do is have; I don’t know if it will be like a happy hour or something; because a lot of you guys found me and just ran into. A couple of girls; girls. Women. Whatever. I consider myself a girl most of the time. Just walking around; “Hey Diane!” Just found me by chance, but I realize that’s not the best way to try and have people come say hi. So hopefully it will come together; there’s a very specific booth that I was like; I should probably hang here for an hour; y’all could probably guess which booth it would be. But we’re just going to let that simmer and I don’t want to throw anything out there until it happens. But I think we’re going to do that for next year; I’ll have an hour or so where I’ll kind of be in one place you guys can find me.

So a lot of our listeners, a lot of our Master Class participants and practitioners, students, etc. Were at the event. I don’t know if they were attending just as practitioners, or some people may have been working. Some of you guys may work with brands in marketing or something like that; which a lot of them need help {laughs} with that kind of stuff. But yeah, there were lots of paleo folks there. That was cool to just kind of meet you guys and say hi, and get a hug and a picture; all that fun stuff.

But yeah, so check the blog for a post on some of the trends, and some of my favorite things that were there. And yeah, that’s pretty much it. So those are the notes I have; just kind of the basics. I don’t know. It was pretty much; I was like, Liz would hate this. {laughs} it was a lot of people everywhere.

Liz Wolfe: Ugh. I can’t.

Diane Sanfilippo: But I snapped some pictures of some stuff I thought might be fun for you and the little one; like a veggie fruit snack thing, and stuff like that. Which I’m sure you’ve seen some of it.

Liz Wolfe: No, I’m excited to download some of that stuff. Because I think that’s kind of where it’s going. I think that’s where it’s going in my world.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah, there were some cool, like, I don’t know; kid friendly cool stuff that I thought might be fun for you to share also with your Baby Making and parent groups. I’ll send you the pictures.

Liz Wolfe: Cool.

Diane Sanfilippo: Cool.

4. Reader feedback from episode 285 [32:33]

Liz Wolfe: Alright. So let’s get a little bit of feedback from our healthy snack episode; episode 285, since this is going to tie into what we’re going to spend the next, not that long, talking about. {laughs} but we’ll get some valuable stuff here, but this will tie into our healthy travel tips topic. So, Girl with the Hipster Glasses said, “When you started talking about the Jackson’s Salsa Fresca tortilla chips, I started cracking up because I thought back to my experience trying them a few months ago. I was completely not ready for how delicious they are and I ate way more than I planned. Which is fine, because sometimes the best laid plans are even better when you don’t stick to them.”

Next one, “Look for Terra brand plantain chips at Whole Foods; they’re new, super thin, crispy, and I’m pretty sure just three ingredients; plantains, coconut oil, and salt.”

Diane Sanfilippo: Ooh, really good tip on that one. Thank you, Rachel. Good tip; I’m going to look for those.

Liz Wolfe: This one is from Acro_dani. “Oh! Shanti bars are new and local to south Florida. Several are Paleo friendly and several DON’T have nuts. So good. Mostly seeds; low sugar; clean ingredients.”

And this one is from Annawratislav,” I think I've been listening to you guys for too long, almost everything you talked about I do….”

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Liz Wolfe: {laughs} “Even the boiled eggs on planes. Didn't hear you mention snack packs of olives.”

Diane Sanfilippo: Oh yeah.

Liz Wolfe: That’s so funny, because snack packs of olives is so old-school. I remember that was one of my first blog posts as travel food, and it was like, paleo kits and olive snack pack.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah. I only saw a couple of those at Expo West, but I didn’t stop and check them out. But yeah, that is a really good idea. And I think; I think that Dani who commented; I think I know her {laughs} I actually know her, so thanks for throwing that one in. Awesome; those are really good tips. I’m kind of excited to look for those Terra chips, actually.

Liz Wolfe: I want to just say; bonus points for any company that takes into account the sustainability of their packaging. Because, and a couple of these companies definitely do. Because even though the Expo West sounds awesome, and I love the more paleo-friendly products come out the better; but I also am like; oh my god, so many single use plastics, it just kills me.

Diane Sanfilippo: I know. I know. And it’s such a big thing.

Liz Wolfe: I need to work on it; but yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah, it’s a big thing that they’re talking about, just kind of in the industry. And of course, at the Expo itself as well, some of the samples are made specifically for that purpose, so little snack packs of things that are made that wouldn’t otherwise be available just for the purpose of giving out a sample. But yeah, I mean it almost goes back to the whole thing we were talking about a couple of weeks ago with snacks where we don’t really buy a lot of prepackaged snack foods. There might be a handful, but mostly it’s just stuff that we eat in a small portion, and can use a bag that maybe we would reuse or contain, or something like that. I do think it’s something to consider.

I think that because we’re talking mostly about travel today; traveling is when I do think the small, single-use, individual serving packages have a little bit more validity. Like, you don’t get as much leeway with a Ziploc bag, whatever, ziptop bag that may open. You want something that’s sealed and you haven’t even opened it yet. Like, I took all these samples home and nothing broke open, you know. There are honey packets and all kinds of stuff in my bag. So I do think they have a place; and to that point, eating this stuff on a daily basis; maybe not for the environmental impact. But having it in your purse for on the go, and you just; you’re out the door and you need something. It might be a little bit more valid, does that make sense.

Liz Wolfe: Mm-hmm. Yep.

Diane Sanfilippo: Just considering what we’re doing. But there were some brands; and I think there was a brand making a product; a coconut jerky product. Which you know; eh, we’re borderline on fake meat there, but not. It wasn’t really trying to be meat, it was just, I don’t know. Treating and seasoning the coconut differently. I want to say they won an award for their packaging, because of that. It’s fully compostable or something.

Liz Wolfe: Awesome.

Diane Sanfilippo: I’ll try and link to that in my blog post where I talk about trends and the hot products and all of that; but I know there was an award given, and I think they won an award for that. So it is something that the whole industry is paying attention to, and hopefully we’ll see more of that in the near future.

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5. Diane’s travel tips: Lodging [38:56]

Diane Sanfilippo: Alright, so did you want me to get into some of our travel topics?

Liz Wolfe: Yes please.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yes please! {laughs} Ok. So, I’ve been traveling for several weeks now, and I do travel for weeks at a time for different reasons; often touring or what have you, and sometimes vacation. Whatever is taking me, or you, off of your typical routine. I think it’s nice to have some tips. So make sure you guys check out the podcast show notes because we’ll have all of these tips kind of collected up for you more easily.

And this is stuff that you and I did when we would travel to do seminars as well, so feel free to chime in. But I’ve just got a bunch of tips, starting with lodging. I think one of the big questions I got; or reactions I got, when I showed people that Cassy and I bought eggs and sausage and kale in Portland to have for breakfast the next day; they were like, “What? Where are you cooking that?” And I don’t know if folks just haven’t been to areas where this stuff is available, but there a ton of hotels with kitchens now. And it’s pretty easy to find almost anywhere. Scott and I traveled driving across the country with the dog, and that was enough to have to look for a dog-friendly place, but most of the time we were able to find a place with a full-sized refrigerator, and at a minimum, a plug in single burner, what’s it called; like an induction cooktop kind of deal where you have to have a pan that’s going to work on it.

Liz Wolfe: Uh-huh.

Diane Sanfilippo: So that was something that we were able to find pretty easily; but a lot of them have a full four burner stove, or two burner stove. So you guys can look for that. It’s pretty easy to find. They also have laundry available, so that’s something folks can take advantage of pretty easily. Do you guys tend to look for that when you’re traveling; to get a place with a fridge and a kitchen and all of that?

Liz Wolfe: {sigh} Yes. We haven’t done a whole lot of traveling. I mean, the traveling we’ve done has certainly been to, mostly to family homes, so we have that access. But when we went to Portland last NTA conference in 2016, we did; not an Airbnb but like a Home Away or VRBO that was basically a house; it was a little tiny house. We had kitchen space in case the baby made lots of noise, and all of that. That’s definitely important to us. We’re not so much doing hotels anymore, so I definitely recommend people check; not even. I feel like Airbnb can sometimes be a little on edge, but VRBO and Home Away we’ve done pretty well with.

Diane Sanfilippo: That’s a really good tip. I think, especially for families who need more space and a living room and all of that.

Liz Wolfe: Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: Awesome. So, that’s just kind of my big tip for lodging, and kind of the wrap up tip on that too; just as a travel hack, I would try and find certain chains over and over again. Whichever chain it’s going to be so you can get points for staying at the same places, and you get used to what they have to offer. Not every version of the same hotel is always the same, but some of them you’ll be able to find; have been recently remodeled, etc., and they’ll be pretty nice for a pretty decent price. So there’s that.

6. Diane’s travel tips: Air and car travel [42:47]

Diane Sanfilippo: When it comes to airport travel {laughs}. Ok. My most recently trip to LA; luckily it was domestic travel and it wasn’t too horrible; but I totally left my driver’s license at home. That was not cool. But it was because I was traveling the previous week, and left my ID in a bag I wasn’t bringing on this trip. {laughs} So don’t do that; make sure you have all your stuff. But, I would highly recommend getting TSA-precheck. It’s an independent thing from the airport security, but there’s all other ones. {laughs} There’s going clear; no. Not going clear.

Liz Wolfe: No.

Diane Sanfilippo: There’s a program called Clear, also at the airport, that’s separate from TSA-precheck. But we did the global entry thing because we were going to travel abroad and we wanted to make coming back into the country a little bit faster and easier, which it definitely did. But that gives you TSA-precheck. It should be a pretty easy and quick process, depending on where you live; here in San Francisco the wait time was really long because a lot of people here are traveling pretty often. But I know before our tour, Cassy Joy I think and Moriah, on our team, got that stuff done within a couple of weeks. So definitely get the TSA-precheck, it just makes everything easier going through security.

I recommend scheduling a later morning or early afternoon flight if it fits your budget and it’s ok with your schedule. I think it’s less stressful to get to the airport at a time when fewer people are traveling. I know some people think that the first flight of the morning is delayed less often, and that might be true; but I definitely find trying to wake up at 4 a.m. to get to the airport is way too stressful, and I don’t know. I mean I guess it depends on the whole purpose of your travel, but I try to make a travel day just a travel day, and not try and do other things on the travel day. So I think that’s a really good tip to kind of keep in mind.

And you want to make sure that you have small containers; so 2-3 ounces that are spill proof. If you want to carry liquids, you can totally carry liquids on a plane, you just have to have really small containers for them. So if you’re doing something; let’s just say you’re doing your charcoal mask. Get a little jar for it. At the drug store you can usually find a 1 or 2-ounce container, and just take that with you that way. You want to make sure that the containers are clear as often as possible so they can see what’s inside; because even if they’re small enough, sometimes they will stop you. It might not just be that they are a liquid at all; sometimes they want to be able to see it.

Dry foods are totally acceptable in your carry on; you can bring whatever food you have. Chicken, and salad, and all of that. You can totally bring that on a plane, so don’t hesitate to bring a lunch with you. In this case, I wouldn’t really worry about having an ice pack. If you are going on a really long flight, you can bring like a fully frozen ice pack; not the gel kind, but the kind that freezes into a full block. As long as it’s frozen, you should be find going through security; but if it does defrost too much and becomes water, then you’ll have a problem going through with that. But you could test out just freezing a bottle of water overnight and packing that in the cooler, and then it shouldn’t defrost by the time you’re going through security. Unless you’re one of those, I don’t know, if you live too far from the airport and it’s going to melt on the way. But it should be fine.

What else? You can also bring a refillable water bottle. Like, if you don’t want to spend $5-10 on a bottle of water once you get through security, have your water with you, make sure it’s empty, and then fill it. Most airports will have a water bottle filling fountain, not one that people are kind of slobbering on {laughs} but one that is intended only for filling water bottles. So keep your eyes peeled for that. It’s definitely a good way to kind of save money and have your water and not be too worried about it.

What else. Do you have anything else for airport stuff? Anything specific. Sorry, go ahead.

Liz Wolfe: Oh man. No, it’s ok. I don’t have a ton of good advice for the airport because we’ve only done it a couple of times, and we haven’t done it that well, but I just want to wrap all my baby/kids travel tips together maybe.

Diane Sanfilippo: Ok.

Liz Wolfe: Do you want me to do it now, or wait?

Diane Sanfilippo: I can just talk about really quickly for car travel; similar recommendations. Bring a mini-cooler if you have something that’s perishable, and pack meals if you don’t want to eat things that are on the road. I mean, that’s pretty obvious but I think a lot of times we underestimate how hungry we’re going to be on the road, even if it’s only a several-hour trip. It’s always worth it to have that and then just kind of put it in the refrigerator when you get there if you don’t need to eat it, but I think it is good to have something with you, especially if there’s not food on the way, depending on where you’re driving. What do you have for traveling with the kiddo?

7. Liz’s tips: travelling with kids [47:50]

Liz Wolfe: Ok. I’m just going to roll everything; I’m going to roll everything together into one run-on sentence, because I’ve got a list here. As far as just getting around; airport, man we’ve just done this a couple of different ways, but getting to the airport, getting around to the airport; I personally, while they will fold up a stroller for you and put it on the plane and gate check it, I just don’t think a stroller is worth dealing with. So the most successful we’ve been with getting through security without too many people’s hands being all over my child, wanting to talk to her and greet her, and just; you know, finger slobber all over her is to do the baby carrier/backpack combo. So you can wear a backpack on your front, or your back, just the same as you can wear a kid on your front, or your back, depending on how big they are.

So what I like to do is put the kid in the Tula baby carrier, or some other kind of soft structured carrier on my front, and wear the diaper bag/backpack on my back. For the most part, I think you can just use a regular old backpack, where you combine all your diaper and kid stuff with your personal stuff; purse stuff, and all of that, on your back. Laptop; baby stuff; baby food; baby cooler; all of that. So you’ve got something on your front, something on your back. And then if you’re traveling with a spouse, they can wear the gigantic whatever you’re carrying on, and/or a car seat, which is a whole nother conversation that I’ll talk about in just a second as far as the car seat goes. But that’s my favorite way to navigate through the airport; is to double wear.

As far as a car seat goes; this is a really hotly debated thing, because you’re not required to put your baby in a car seat on a plane, but a lot of really passionate car seat type safety fanatics will tell you that a kid needs to be in a car seat, on a plane, and even the big car seats that you put the 2-year-old’s in, after the infant car seat; you should be able to take those onto the plane, you should be able to install them in the air plane seat. Sometimes flight attendants don’t know that, but they are, I don’t know, TSA rated. So Google it before you go.

But safety wise, I suppose; yes, your kid should be strapped into a car seat on a plane. I’m sure somebody who is an expert on this stuff is yelling into their iPod right now; their podcast player right now because I’m getting this wrong. But my preference has been not to mess with the car seat on the plane. We have checked a car seat one time; and folks would say that checking a car seat is the same as the car seat getting in an accident. I don’t know. I can’t; you can’t please everybody with the car seat stuff, but we have really only traveled with our kid in our laps. We actually bought seats for her just because I don’t want to deal with other people’s elbows, other people’s germs in our row, but that’s not always cost effective for people so I understand folks can’t always do that.

But we’ve also seen other people travel with their big old car seats, and have told the flight attendants to stick it where the sun don’t shine because the seat fits, it’s not going to be gate checked, and they’re going to put their kid in it. So you can do that; I would encourage people to Google it and figure out what you’re comfortable with. Risk-wise and convenience-wise, and weigh those two things. You can also rent car seats when you get to your destination, but that’s something I’ve never been comfortable with, either. Because you don’t know what that car seat has been through; you don’t know who’s been in that car seat and how clean it is. So it’s one of those things that there’s never going to be a perfect solution unless you basically buy a car seat when you get to wherever you're going, and it’s brand new. Which we actually did end up doing. My mother-in-law actually bought an extra car seat, and she’s never used it again but she’s got it. That’s kind of that tough decision that you have to make.

What else did I want to talk about along those lines? The infant bucket car seats, the same deal; you can bring your base or you can strap it into the airplane seat. Just make sure you’re armed with TSA’s rundown on your iPhone so you can show it to a flight attendant that doesn’t know. Because most people don’t bother to bring their car seats on the plane.

I would recommend that rather than getting one of those car seat backpacks; because it is ridiculous to try and haul around a giant car seat on your back; there’s no good way to do it. Get a car seat cart, so you can drag it around behind you, and your kid can even sit in it if you want them to. Much more convenient to just fold up the cart than it is to deal with stuffing the car seat into a car seat backpack. They’re just ridiculous.

Ok; so let me circle bag around to diaper bags really quickly. I’ve talked about, in my parenthood group; I do like Beautycounter’s diaper bag for non-travel. It’s great for laptop, it’s great for just kind of running around in normal life. But, travel-wise, if you’re going to do a diaper bag and not just a regular old backpack that will fit everything, Skip Hop has a backpack/diaper bag that’s really good; Honest company does as well. And then there are a couple more, gourmet ones that will fit your laptop, but those are my favorites for traveling.

And as far as carriers; I love my Tula; it’s awesome. It’s; oh my gosh, I forgot what it’s called because I forgot all the Tula lingo, but it’s like half woven. It’s a textile, from Meeyoo, and it’s beautiful. But Onya baby is another soft structured carrier that folks could look at. And what’s cool about the Onya baby is that it has a built-in child seat. So if you want to sit your baby down, but you know you're not going to have a booster seat to put them in, you can actually invert the Onya baby and buckle it around a chair, and it has a little soft, dealio that you can stick your baby’s feet through and kind of keep them contained; keep them in one place if you're wanting to sit them down in a chair like that. So it’s pretty convenient, and it’s a good carrier, but the Tula has just been my preference for quite some time.

Another thing; travel food. The first time we traveled with my kid, I tried to be so creative to be so healthy and fresh, and it just ended up being this giant mess everywhere we went. So squeeze packs all day; squeeze packs all the time. Squeeze packs will shut them up; squeeze packs are magic. You can make and fill your own squeeze packs if you want to add some goodies, like collagen peptides and stuff like that. That’s always good. If you’re going to bring a stroller, I would definitely invest in an umbrella stroller if you really just feel like you need one with you; it’s so much easier, but that’s kind of up to you.

Oh, back to squeeze packs really quickly. Take a little taste of the squeeze pack before you hand it over to the kid, because there have, in the past, been squeeze packs that have been rotten or rancid on the inside. So just mush it around a little bit to mix it up and take a little taste before you hand it to your kid.

Another thing is to bring tons and tons and tons; I hate saying this, but plastic bags; just zipper bags, different types of bags for different; for waste, for diapers, for things you need to throw away, for things you need to keep separate. Lots of plastic bags and a sharpie is always the best for me.

We bring these heavy-duty hydrogen peroxide wipes with us. They basically kill everything. They’re hospital grade, but you definitely want to know which are your hydrogen peroxide wipes and which are your baby wipes; so keep those really clearly labeled. We pretty much wipe everything down with hydrogen peroxide wipes {laughs} give it a minute, and then wipe it back down with a baby wipe; which kind of helps me feel a little bit better about plane travel. The first time we traveled on a plane, we came back with Roseola; which is not fun when you have a tiny baby with a really high fever and you have no idea where it came from. It’s a little bit scary.

What’s my other thing? Nursing moms. Nursing moms, when you’re traveling; I just want to say, be brave. If you don’t feel comfortable taking your boob out on a plane, that’s totally fine; there are lots of different nursing covers you can use; but honestly, breasts are right up there with thumbs for their usefulness to the human race, and people need to learn to appreciate that. So while it does not have to be your fight to take on to get people comfortable with the female nipple; I just want to say, if you want to whip out your boob in the airport, do it. If you want to do it on a plane with some, you know, big corporate dude trying to work on his computer next to you; do it. Just power to you. Boobs are amazing, and we should take them out wherever and whenever we want to; especially when it’s involving feeding a child. And, that obviously helps your kid to pop their ears on a plane.

And finally, iPads.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Liz Wolfe: I know we like to say we don’t want to expose our children to a lot of unnecessary technology; but if iPads are for anything, they are for traveling on airplanes. Embrace the technology; let them stare it for a couple of hours. They will be fine.

Diane Sanfilippo: As a childless co-travel, I would appreciate that also for whoever is questioning whether they should do it; any kind of entertainment, we appreciate.

Liz Wolfe: Your disgusting hardboiled eggs on a plane are equivalent to someone else’s screaming baby. {laughs}

Diane Sanfilippo: It’s just to combat all of the crying. Yeah, but; whatever. {laughs}

Liz Wolfe: Whatever. We can have this conversation off the air.

Diane Sanfilippo: Off the air; it’s fine. I mean, I get it, it’s hard. Traveling is hard for everyone, so I’m sure it’s hard on little ones. They don’t know what’s happening; it’s painful and weird, and space constraints and all of that.

But anyway, I was just going to say too to make sure you leave extra time for security if you are bringing any of this stuff that might be questionable. It’s just going to take a little bit of extra time. I do notice, too, that at security; even just yesterday traveling back, one of the agents was kind of letting this mom know that she could go through this other line that would be easier; so be aware that a lot of times, those options exist if you’re traveling with a family, especially if it’s new to you to be traveling with kids. There are things; there are systems in place to make it a little bit easier. But if you don’t do it often you may not know that that’s a thing.

And there is always early boarding; every single airline has the option for early boarding for families with small children, so take advantage of that. Because as you know, when you get on a plane, at the end, everyone is there, their stuff is already filled in the overhead bins, it’s really hard to maneuver, especially if you are bringing a car seat or something like that that you need to get set up; whatever time and space you need to do that; be there early and make sure you can get on the plane first, because it will just be easier. And you won’t have to worry that people are breathing down your neck trying to board the plane. So hopefully that’s helpful.

8. Diane’s travel tips: Final quick tips [59:39]

Diane Sanfilippo: A couple of quick tips; maybe what we’ll do is we’ll loop you guys back to a couple of other episodes we’ve done recently. There are definitely tons of episodes on travel tips in all of this; so check those out. We had a lot of healthy suggestions in episode 285 for talking about when you arrive somewhere; finding a grocery store, whether it’s a Whole Foods, or Trader’s Joes, or any grocery store to grab some food that you can make at the hotel or even to grab some readymade stuff like deli meat or berries or olives, like we were talking about. Things that could be really easy.

And I recommend that you have a list that you use as your go-to. So if you’re traveling for the first time; let’s say, since going paleo or eating real food or what have you. One thing I did for our tour in September was I just had our standard, here’s my overnight, go to the store, here’s what I’m going to grab. It’s going to be like one container of yogurt, some berries; a green juice. I had the same list; I would get the same things every time, and that really made life easier. So if you travel for work, that’s a really good idea. Just keep your overnight grocery needs, and just always get the same things, if you can go to the same kind of store every time; literally the exact same item every time. It just kind of cuts down on the stress. And also it’s easier for your body if you're not trying to change up the inputs of your nutrition all the time, just because you're traveling. Keep it really consistent.

What else? Specific; so we talked about beauty stuff. I think I mentioned about containers, but if you can use bars versus liquid; so recently traveling with the charcoal bar, for example, I’ll just cut it in half or third. I did the same thing with the citrus mimosa bar; both of those are Beautycounter, but whatever bars you’re using, you can just cut them into smaller pieces and take them that way, I think that’s a good idea. Especially if you’re trying to be savvy about safer beauty or skin care and you don’t want to use what’s in the hotels, then you can do that and make sure you have little travel bottles that you fill up.

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Diane Sanfilippo: Do you have any tips on clothing; stuff that you were wearing on the plane as kind of our last; I think this is our last category here.

Liz Wolfe: Studio pants.

Diane Sanfilippo: {laughs}

Liz Wolfe: Seriously, always. They’ve got pockets that are stretchy, they’re long enough. I can tie them at the bottom so they’re not dragging. That’s how I do it. And I usually bring a scarf, just in case.

Diane Sanfilippo: Also, you’re already wearing them.

Liz Wolfe: {laughing} Yes. Also they’re permanently fused to my body, so.

Diane Sanfilippo: Yeah.

Liz Wolfe: {laughs} Yeah.

Diane Sanfilippo: I would not be surprised if they were. Yeah, definitely pockets; especially ladies if you’re not wanting to reach into your purse a million times for your phone. I’m liking having; I mean they’re called wireless earbuds, but they’re not wireless. They’re connected with a wire. I like having these earbuds that have a little clip to the back of my shirt; so the back of my neck. My earbuds are clipped onto that, and that’s been really nice on planes, because I’m literally caught up in my wire while I’m trying to watch a movie on the plane, then I want to go to the bathroom; and this way they just kind of stay on me, I’m not losing them. I’m kind of obsessed with that; I think that’s a really convenient thing.

But I do think bringing stuff you can layer; bringing something like a circle scarf that you can bring into a blanket is really helpful. I think all that stuff while you’re on the plane is really helpful. But yeah. I don’t think; I had a couple of other things here, but they’re a little more general recommendations. So I’ve got a whole post on paleo travel tips; we’ll link to that. But you can just probably do a little Google search for Balanced Bites paleo travel tips, and you’ll find them there.

Liz Wolfe: Alright, I think that will do it for this week, then. You can find me, Liz, at and you can find Diane at Join our email lists for free goodies and updates that you don’t find anywhere else on our websites or on the podcast. While you’re on the internet, leave us an iTunes review. See you next week.

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